The first week's matches of the new season will be played this Wednesday, July 7.
We have 27 teams registered for the season. Please refer to the schedule and standings page for team names and match schedules.
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1. Rules
1. Coin toss: amend rule 1.1.15, sequence must be: racking, then coin toss, then break.
2. Mid season tournament: proposal to amend rule 1.1.9, to clarify the requirement for players who wish to participate in the tournament. In the current rules, only end of the season tournaments are ruled with the requirement of having played in at least 5 matches.
2. Score sheets
1. Score sheets must be filled out and dropped at Scrooge, also in case the captains already entered the scores on the website.
2. Score sheets must contain the full names of new or migrated players in the top left section of the sheet.
3. Please help avoiding that players who have played in the league before are entered with the same name or a different name twice.
4. After the scores were entered on the website by one of the captains, the captain of the other team should check the scores entered and complete unknown player names for his team.
5. As “8 off the break” is not recognized as a special game anymore, please indicate an “8 ball run” with (1) and a “break and run” with (2).
6. Forfeited games should have the name of the player who was not available for play replaced by “forfeit”, both on the score sheet and in the website. The opposing player, who was available, should appear with his/her name on the score sheet and in the website.
3. Playoffs
1. The dates for the playoffs published on the website were mistakenly set to Saturdays instead of Sundays.
2. The default playoff date and time for playoff round 1 and 3 are Sundays, at 4pm, for round 2 and the finals Wednesdays, at 7.30pm.
3. Due to this change, the league will honor playoffs on Saturdays or Sundays. The captains of the two teams playing eachother must agree on a change of day and time in advance.
4. If no contact to settle an alternative date and time has been made, or if no agreement can be found, then the playoff match will take place at the default date and time.
5. The playoffs for championship will be played by the top 16 teams, whereas the playoffs for best of the rest will be played by the lower 10 teams of the regular season.
6. The playoff pairings will be published on the website Thursday, 27 May. Please make sure that all scores are entered until Thursday. In case that both teams are unable to enter the scores, please make sure that the score sheets are dropped in Scrooge Wednesday night.
7. In case there should be a forfeit match on the last Wednesday, please inform one of the league officials as soon as possible.
8. In the playoffs for the best of the rest, the lowest 4 teams will play in the first playoff round, the 6 other teams will have a bye.
9. Should a team decide not to participate in the playoffs, then please let the league officials know in advance.
4. End of season tournament
1. The end of the season tournament is scheduled for Saturday, June 12. Sign-up 3-3.45pm, start of games 4pm. Locations will be announced later.
2. The captains decided by vote to have a singles tournament instead of the mixed doubles tournaments done in previous seasons.
3. This will be a money tournament without trophies.
5. Requirements for teams and bars to participate in the league
1. The league plans to publish a flyer to be posted in the bars near the pool table stating the requirements for teams to participate in the league. The text has not been setup yet, but will be done during next week so it can be posted in the last week of the regular season.
2. These requirements will be given out to all bars in Itaewon and Haebongchon which maintain a pool table in the bar. Posting needs approval from the bar owner or manager of the bar.
3. Captains are asked to support the league in this by talking to the bar owners and by making sure the flyers will be posted. Bars which did not participate in the league this season will be contacted by the league officials.
6. Proposal for a new season format
1. Proposal as per separate document. The proposal was explained by Jim, followed by a constructive discussion where all captains present voiced their opinions.
2. Captains are asked to further discuss the proposal with their team members to be able to represent a team opinion for voting on this at the organizational meeting for next season.
7. Website
1. We had several issues with our website over the past 2 seasons, among which were unavailability of the site and problems with the ratings calculation. While the unavailability issue had been solved last year by moving the site to a commercial server in the USA, this introduced other issues, most probably due to version incompatibilities of the website code with the server software.
2. The website was developed many years ago by Sheldon Arnst, who used to play in our league. He also maintained the site over all these years, and for all of his hard work we owe him a very big thank you.
3. However, the league needs to have ownership of the website, to be able to react on issues promptly and to have the ability to further maintain and where necessary, expand the site. We have spoken with Sheldon and are in the process of getting ownership of the website.
8. Other Information
1. Oz has decided to resign from the position of secretary for the league. Doug, Jim and Bernard will run the league until end of this season and are looking for a new secretary for the next season. Anyone who is interested is highly welcome and should contact one of the league officials.
2. The next season’s organizational meeting will be held June 30, 7.30pm, location to be announced later. The first match of the Summer / Fall Season 2010 will be July 7. This years Chuseok holiday is September 21 – 23 (Tuesday – Thursday), during which there will be no match scheduled.
Meeting ended 7.30pm.
18 team captains and representatives participated at the meeting:
3 Alley Pub Pink Panthers
3 Alley Pub Wild Hogs’
Bless U Cueing Truants
Bless U Underdogs
Cheers The Playerz
Dolce Vita Crazy
Dolce Vita Sweet Life
Friend’s You and Me
Hollywood Grill
Manhattan Mafia
Ole’ Stompers 300
Orange Tree Juicers
Pub Scrooge Meat ‘n Pie
Seoul Pub FUTA
Seoul Pub Shava
Spy Club Shooters
The Loft AFF
Woodstock Rocks
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Itaewon Pool League
Alternate Division Selection
Proposal June 2010
BACKGROUND
IPL has had 4 divisions for the past 6-1/2 years. The divisions have been randomly drawn at the organizational meeting of each season in recent seasons. In other seasons the top 4 teams, based on overall points, from the previous season were placed in separate divisions and then the remainder of the teams were drawn randomly to fill out the divisions.
In a recent season the top 16 teams based on total points were made up of 4 teams from each division. This is the most even split between the divisions in overall finishing position since there have been 4 divisions.
An advantage to the random draw has been thought to be that teams are not usually in the same divisions each season, which provides a greater opportunity to play different teams from season to season. This arrangement may contribute to the fun/social aspects of the league. However, with a fixed 20 week season, each team will still play 20 other teams in the league over the course of a season. Therefore, teams will play the same number of teams with either format.
The major disadvantage is that all teams will play more teams with a wider range of ability and therefore there will be more teams getting defeated soundly (15-0, 14-1) each week. This is believed to be sufficient reason by some league members to divide the divisions based on some ranking of teams.
In the Summer Fall 2008 season there were 6 matches out of 320 (1.9%) with a 15-0 score. There were 2 matches (0.7%) with a 14-1 score. There were 12 matches (3.8%) with a 13-2 score. There were 23 matches (7.2%) with a 12-3 score. Although the 15-0 and 14-1 matches accounted for less than 3% of the total matches, there would appear to be no disadvantage to the league trying a league format based on team rankings.
PROPOSAL
The proposal is to create 2 sections of the league with 1/2 of the teams in each section. In the top section would be the teams that finished with the most overall points in the season just completed. This section would be known as the High Ball Section. The second section would have the teams that finished with the lowest overall points in the season just completed. This section would be known as the Low Ball Section.
If there are at least 24 teams in the league, each section would have 2 divisions. In the High Ball Section there would be the Stripes Division and the Solids Division. In the Low Ball Section there would be the Cue Ball Division and the 8 Ball Division. Teams would be assigned to these divisions within each section by random draw. Within each section awards would be established for regular season finish within the divisions, as is done currently.
If a team changes its name or location but retains the same basic players, it would be placed in a section based upon the previous season record. If a new team with essentially all new players enters the league, it would be placed in the 2nd section. Retaining the same basic players would be defined as having at least 4 of the same players continue on the team. This placement of such teams would be determined by the executive committee when setting up the league.
Teams would play all other teams in that section (accounting for 15 matches if there were 16 teams in the section). The remaining matches would be played with teams from the other section based on a random draw.
At the end of the season there would be a playoff in each section, not an overall league playoff. Other league events, eg. money tournaments would be run for the entire league and not by section. Team awards would be established by division and section.
In the first season of this format there would be no change in the reporting of rankings. Rankings would be reported on a league wide basis and not by section.
In the last 1/4 of the new season, there would be a captains meeting to review the current season. The objectives of that captains meeting would be:
- to determine if the new format should continue
- to determine the method for setting divisions in the coming season
- to determine changes, if any, in the reporting and use of the player rankings
- to identify other issues affected or created by the new division split
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1. Team sign-up
26 teams signed up for the Winter / Spring 2010 season. Please refer to our website to find the team names, their home bars, divisions and the season’s schedule.
2. Season schedule
Start of season: 13. January
End of regular season: 26. May
Playoff dates: 29. May, 2. June, 5. June, 9. June
Banquet: 19. June
Tentative date mid-season tournament: 3. April
Tentative date end of season tournament: 12. June
Tentative date mid-season captains' meeting: 4. April (skipped if not necessary)
The season structure will be the same as last season.
3. Rules of play
"Eight off the break" will not be recognized as a special game and not recorded on the website. Paragraph 5.1. of our rules to be deleted.
The majority of captains voted not to allow one player only to play in a regular doubles game. This means, both doubles partners need to be present to play, otherwise the game if forfeited.
Other proposals to allow one player only to play in both, regular and scotch doubles games, did not find approval by the majority of captains.
4. Entering scores
As per paragraph 1.3. of our rules. Further clarifications:
1. If a captain enters the scores on the website, then he must submit the score sheet on the following Wednesday, 1 week after the match, the latest.
2. The captain of the other team should check the scores entered and complete unknown player names from his team.
3. If none of the captains is able to enter the scores, then the scores are entered by the league execs, normally between Sunday and Tuesday after the match.
4. Matches to be rescheduled must be notified to the opposing team 48 hours before the match. Rescheduled matches should be played as soon as possible, but must be played before the end of the regular season. President to be notified in advance about the rescheduled match and the new match date.
5. If the scores were not entered on the website and no score sheet is delivered to the drop off locations, then both teams will receive 0 points for the match.
6. Drop off locations for score sheets is Pub Scrooge. Wether Orange Tree or Phillie’s may be used as alternative location in Haebongchon will be confirmed as soon as we were able to talk to the owners.
5. Forfeits
The majority of captains voted to keep the current practice how to score forfeited matches. This means, the “winning” team receives 8 game win points and the match win point, the forfeiting team receives 0 points.
Other proposals to award more game win points, or an average of all other matches’ game win points, and/or to penalize the forfeiting team with penalty points, did not find approval by the majority of captains.
6. Further info to the captains
If rule questions or debates occur during a match, then the President or the Vice President may be contacted for clarification. Please use other means than the mobile phone to submit your question if it's not urgent, e.g. if it's not during a league game. If you submit your question by email, make sure to provide all necessary information to allow proper judgement of the situation.
Doug will wait in Seoul Pub on Wednesday 13. and 20. January until midnight for the remaining payments. Please make sure you pay the dues in full until 20. January the latest.
Note: Teams who do not pay their dues will be removed from the season. The down payment is not reimbursable.
7. Team assignment to divisions
All 26 teams were assigned to one of the four divisions by draw. Please refer to our website.
Meeting ended 9.05pm.
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