Proposal #3 - Money tournaments or trophy tournaments
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10 years 11 months ago #590
by Mark Barnes
and I don't think you addressed the realquestion that was brought up, the Real question is what is the league doing to increase participation,what are they doing that is so differentin Songtan that they have so many teams?
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and I don't think you addressed the realquestion that was brought up, the Real question is what is the league doing to increase participation,what are they doing that is so differentin Songtan that they have so many teams?
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10 years 11 months ago #591
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Why should we want more players?
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10 years 11 months ago #592
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Replied by John Owens on topic Re:Proposal #3 - Money tournaments or trophy tournaments
And Jeff Potter hits the nail on the head.
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10 years 11 months ago #593
by Mark Barnes
Wow Really?
why don't we just divide the League into two teams and every wednesday we can meet up and not keep score, and while were at it, who needs ratings anyway.
[Jeff Potter 2013-05-16, 09:09:33]:
Why should we want more players?
Replied by Mark Barnes on topic Re:Re:Proposal #3 - Money tournaments or trophy tournaments
Wow Really?
why don't we just divide the League into two teams and every wednesday we can meet up and not keep score, and while were at it, who needs ratings anyway.
[Jeff Potter 2013-05-16, 09:09:33]:
Why should we want more players?
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10 years 11 months ago - 10 years 11 months ago #594
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Here's a little ecerpt from Songtans homepage and finance sheet.... 1.6 million won in prizes... this is why you want more players. do I really need to spell out that leagues like this rely on participation and dues being assesed properly? They have many players because their league dolls out goodies. They have damn near 650 players.
On the finance sheet the web hosting fee's stick out to me.
here's finance sheet:
[tr]
[th]DATE[/th]
[th]DESCRIPTION[/th]
[th]CATEGORY[/th]
[th]W/D[/th]
[th]DEPOSIT[/th]
[th]BAL USD[/th]
[th]W/D[/th]
[th]DEPOSIT[/th]
[th]BAL KRW[/th][/tr]
[tr]
[td]4-May-13[/td]
[td]Opening Balance[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td]$2,797.41[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td]₩69,273.00[/td][/tr]
[tr]
[td]4-May-13[/td]
[td]112 New Teams[/td]
[td]Team Fees[/td]
[td][/td]
[td]$3,920.00[/td]
[td]$6,717.41[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td]₩69,273.00[/td][/tr]
[tr]
[td]4-May-13[/td]
[td]645 New Players[/td]
[td]Player Fees[/td]
[td][/td]
[td]$8,030.00[/td]
[td]$14,747.41[/td]
[td][/td]
[td]₩1,339,000.00[/td]
[td]₩1,408,273.00[/td][/tr]
[tr]
[td]4-May-13[/td]
[td]Print Fees[/td]
[td]Score Sheets etc[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td]$14,747.41[/td]
[td]₩220,000.00[/td]
[td][/td]
[td]₩1,188,273.00[/td][/tr]
[tr]
[td]4-May-13[/td]
[td]Admin Fees[/td]
[td]645 Players[/td]
[td]$3,225.00[/td]
[td][/td]
[td]$11,522.41[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td]₩1,188,273.00[/td][/tr]
[tr]
[td]4-May-13[/td]
[td]Web Fees[/td]
[td]Annual We Hosting Fee[/td]
[td]$85.00[/td]
[td][/td]
[td]$11,437.41[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td]₩1,188,273.00[/td][/tr]
Here's their last tournament:
We had a great turnout for the end of season tournament with 120 players. Special thanks to Stereo for hosting. And thanks to Shorty's, Xanadu, Rhino, Touchdown, Moonpower, Click, Avalon, Jammers, People's, and First Class for opening early to allow play.
Even with 120 players we finished up before midnight. Here's your big winners:
1st Jin - 500,000KRW
2nd Bill - 400,000KRW
3rd Yoon - 300,000KRW
4th Gin Hee - 200,00-KRW
5th Dirtbag - 150,000KRW
6th Noriel - 100,000KRW
I Propose establishing and electinga Steering committee (6-10 People)to evaluate major overhauls to the league format and structure, that addresses lack of a administrative team between seasons and looks for ways to improve the league over a longer term.
Replied by Mark Barnes on topic Re:Proposal #3 - Money tournaments or trophy tournaments
Here's a little ecerpt from Songtans homepage and finance sheet.... 1.6 million won in prizes... this is why you want more players. do I really need to spell out that leagues like this rely on participation and dues being assesed properly? They have many players because their league dolls out goodies. They have damn near 650 players.
On the finance sheet the web hosting fee's stick out to me.
here's finance sheet:
[tr]
[th]DATE[/th]
[th]DESCRIPTION[/th]
[th]CATEGORY[/th]
[th]W/D[/th]
[th]DEPOSIT[/th]
[th]BAL USD[/th]
[th]W/D[/th]
[th]DEPOSIT[/th]
[th]BAL KRW[/th][/tr]
[tr]
[td]4-May-13[/td]
[td]Opening Balance[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td]$2,797.41[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td]₩69,273.00[/td][/tr]
[tr]
[td]4-May-13[/td]
[td]112 New Teams[/td]
[td]Team Fees[/td]
[td][/td]
[td]$3,920.00[/td]
[td]$6,717.41[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td]₩69,273.00[/td][/tr]
[tr]
[td]4-May-13[/td]
[td]645 New Players[/td]
[td]Player Fees[/td]
[td][/td]
[td]$8,030.00[/td]
[td]$14,747.41[/td]
[td][/td]
[td]₩1,339,000.00[/td]
[td]₩1,408,273.00[/td][/tr]
[tr]
[td]4-May-13[/td]
[td]Print Fees[/td]
[td]Score Sheets etc[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td]$14,747.41[/td]
[td]₩220,000.00[/td]
[td][/td]
[td]₩1,188,273.00[/td][/tr]
[tr]
[td]4-May-13[/td]
[td]Admin Fees[/td]
[td]645 Players[/td]
[td]$3,225.00[/td]
[td][/td]
[td]$11,522.41[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td]₩1,188,273.00[/td][/tr]
[tr]
[td]4-May-13[/td]
[td]Web Fees[/td]
[td]Annual We Hosting Fee[/td]
[td]$85.00[/td]
[td][/td]
[td]$11,437.41[/td]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td]₩1,188,273.00[/td][/tr]
Here's their last tournament:
We had a great turnout for the end of season tournament with 120 players. Special thanks to Stereo for hosting. And thanks to Shorty's, Xanadu, Rhino, Touchdown, Moonpower, Click, Avalon, Jammers, People's, and First Class for opening early to allow play.
Even with 120 players we finished up before midnight. Here's your big winners:
I Propose establishing and electinga Steering committee (6-10 People)to evaluate major overhauls to the league format and structure, that addresses lack of a administrative team between seasons and looks for ways to improve the league over a longer term.
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10 years 11 months ago #595
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Replied by John Owens on topic Re:Proposal #3 - Money tournaments or trophy tournaments
Mark, Songtan league has "damn near 650 players," but a cursory look at their website reveals they also have around 65 bars! That's ten players per bar.
Itaewon pool league has 375 players, but only 18 bars. That's over 20 players per bar.
I'd say Itaewon was a far healthier league.
Itaewon pool league has 375 players, but only 18 bars. That's over 20 players per bar.
I'd say Itaewon was a far healthier league.
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